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Re: On this day in history...

PostPosted: Thu Apr 16, 2020 4:30 pm
by Lianachan
April 16th, 1999 - birth of my eldest son. His 21st is considerably more subdued than I’m sure he could ever have imagined.

Also Culloden and the start of the death of the Highlands in 1746.

Re: On this day in history...

PostPosted: Thu Apr 16, 2020 4:59 pm
by Heid the Ba
*raises glass to the west*

Culloden, aye that was a shitstorm of fuckwittery.

Re: On this day in history...

PostPosted: Sun Apr 19, 2020 2:20 pm
by Arneb
75 years ago today, the capitulation of the Ruhrgebiet and the end of battle of Seelow Heights brought marked two important waypoints towards the uncinditional surrender of the German Reich.

Re: On this day in history...

PostPosted: Wed Apr 29, 2020 7:55 pm
by Arneb
Alfred Hitchcock died 40 years ago today.

Re: On this day in history...

PostPosted: Wed Apr 29, 2020 8:58 pm
by Arneb
On the same day 35 years earlier, American troops liberated Dachau concentration camp, taking another deep look into the abyss.

Re: On this day in history...

PostPosted: Thu Apr 30, 2020 12:41 pm
by Arneb
75 years ago today, Adolf Hitler did his one and only service to Germany by finally committing suicide.

Re: On this day in history...

PostPosted: Mon May 04, 2020 1:21 pm
by Arneb
75 years ago today, Reichssender Hamburg broadcasting station began to operate under British control. It had been the venue for Lord Haw Haw's bile-spewing against the British until April 30. The British couldn't resist the temptation andhad Lord Haw Haw hanged for high treason under shoddy justification in 1946.

I am against the death penalty on principle, but I dare say he wasn't a great loss.

Re: On this day in history...

PostPosted: Mon May 04, 2020 3:19 pm
by Heid the Ba
50th anniversary of the Kent State Massacre as well.

The death of Joyce was no loss at all.

Re: On this day in history...

PostPosted: Fri May 08, 2020 1:33 pm
by Arneb
75 years ago today, the end of the downfall, the day of liberation, V-E day. In Germany, we call it Die Stunde Null, Hour Zero, not quite appropriately.

There was a sparse and subdued remembrance ceremony in Berlin, short and with only 5 participants, one for the 5 institutional arms of the Grundgesetz: The President, the President of the Bundestag, the (Vice) President of the Bundesrat, the President of the Constituional Court, and the Chancellor.

The President gave a very short speech saying remembrance of these times may never be allowed to end. And he said something that I find remarkable in its precision and succinctness: You can only love this nation with a broken heart. Those who are unable to bear this truth and try to "put an end" to our remembering not only repress the catastrophe but negate all the good things that came after it.

I must say, I am impressed. That is a good way to put it.

To all non-Germans on the planet: Happy V-E Day!"

Re: On this day in history...

PostPosted: Sat May 09, 2020 7:52 am
by Heid the Ba
Germany almost always does these things well.

I avoided all of it, it was just too jingoistic and a wee bit xenophobic. My Dad’s view of VE Day was “Great, now I’ll get sent East for the invasion of the Japanese Home Islands” on the basis he was a tankie who was trained on Hobart’s Funnies and had landed on D-Day. Too many people yesterday were talking about VE Day as the end of the war.

Re: On this day in history...

PostPosted: Sat May 09, 2020 10:04 am
by Arneb
Heid the Ba wrote:Germany almost always does these things well.

I avoided all of it, it was just too jingoistic and a wee bit xenophobic. My Dad’s view of VE Day was “Great, now I’ll get sent East for the invasion of the Japanese Home Islands” on the basis he was a tankie who was trained on Hobart’s Funnies and had landed on D-Day. Too many people yesterday were talking about VE Day as the end of the war.


And he might well have been. Da Bomb probably spared him that.

Re: On this day in history...

PostPosted: Sat May 09, 2020 11:53 am
by Heid the Ba
Oh he definitely was going, they were in training for a landing in Europe and were ordered to the Far East but VJ happened before they shipped out.

Re: On this day in history...

PostPosted: Sat May 09, 2020 11:57 am
by Lianachan
I avoided it all too. Last thing I need is yet more British jingoism and English exceptionalism rammed down my throat. I see the Daily Mail said that the German media discuss the response to COVID-19 in scientific terms because they lost the war.

Re: On this day in history...

PostPosted: Sat May 09, 2020 11:59 am
by Heid the Ba
And the Russians as the actual country who defeated Germany use witchcraft and denial? Actually they probably do.

Re: On this day in history...

PostPosted: Mon May 18, 2020 1:16 pm
by Arneb
100 years ago today, birth of Karol Wojtyla, the late Pope John Paul II.

70 years ago today, birth of Thomas Gottschalk, later to become the closest thing to an entertainer brand Germany has.

The two make a nice contrast for the purpose of this thread.

Re: On this day in history...

PostPosted: Mon May 18, 2020 3:34 pm
by Heid the Ba
Indeed they do.

Re: On this day in history...

PostPosted: Sat Jun 06, 2020 9:27 pm
by Heid the Ba
6th June 1944, my father hit a beach in Normandy. He didn’t hate the Germans, he was just doing his job. As I have said before he had worse days but this is the one I think, “What if . . .”

Re: On this day in history...

PostPosted: Sun Jun 21, 2020 10:00 am
by Arneb
21 June, 1960. Armin Hary is the first human to run 100 m in 10.0 seconds. He'll win Olympic Gold in Rome a few months later.

Re: On this day in history...

PostPosted: Sun Jun 21, 2020 11:16 am
by Heid the Ba
And at the Olympics he was representing both Germanys.

Re: On this day in history...

PostPosted: Mon Jun 22, 2020 4:31 am
by Arneb
True. For the last time, wasn't it, in 30 years.

Re: On this day in history...

PostPosted: Mon Jun 22, 2020 9:58 am
by Мастер
On 20 June 1941, Soviet archaeologists opened Timor’s tomb, and found a curse on whomever disturbed his grave written within.

On this day in history, two days later, the forces of the Third Reich invaded the Soviet Union.

Judge for yourself the effectiveness of the curse.

Re: On this day in history...

PostPosted: Mon Jun 22, 2020 10:59 am
by Heid the Ba
That is a heavy duty curse.

Re: On this day in history...

PostPosted: Wed Jul 01, 2020 5:11 pm
by Arneb
30 years ago, the Deutsche Mark was introduced in the GDR, together with the main body of economic and social laws. For the German lovers: Wirtschafts-, Währungs und Sozialunion. It was widely regarded as a mistake, and made a lot of people very angry. Not most, though.

Re: On this day in history...

PostPosted: Thu Aug 06, 2020 7:44 am
by Мастер
On this day in 1945, Hiroshima was lit up.

Re: On this day in history...

PostPosted: Thu Aug 06, 2020 2:25 pm
by Arneb
As a documentary yesterday, called it, the day the Sun fell from the sky.