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by **umop ap!sdn** » Mon Sep 03, 2007 2:02 am

Not even Woody Woodpecker?

(Heheh you gotta love a cartoon character whose name contains both "woody" AND "pecker".)

by **hippietrekx** » Mon Sep 03, 2007 2:53 am

umop ap!sdn wrote:Not even Woody Woodpecker?

(Heheh you gotta love a cartoon character whose name contains both "woody" AND "pecker".)

Eh HEH HEH HEH heh, HEH heh HEH heh, eheheheh.

by **MM_Dandy** » Wed Sep 05, 2007 5:37 pm

Khrushchev's Other Shoe wrote:
MM_Dandy wrote:Well, if Determinism is true, it would be inconsistent.

Which one?

Lack of predetermination would be inconsistent with the presence of an omniscient being.

Khrushchev's Other Shoe wrote:
MM_Dandy wrote:If not, we might have to discuss whether or not omniscience includes the outcomes of indeterminate events -- does an omniscient being have knowledge of that which is impossible to know?

OK, my assumption (and I think the assumption of whomever started this one) was that it would.

Lance wrote:That's my point... If the omniscient being is also responsible for the entirety of creation, then how could the being not know? The being created the knowledge/situation/what-ever in the first place.

Alright, I can agree with that.

So then we're back to claiming that free will is incompatible with Determinism, which is fine, except then free will never exists, and thus cannot be controlled.

by **KLA2** » Wed Sep 05, 2007 11:45 pm

troubleagain wrote:See, I *knew* who Marshall McLuhan was, and his book and all that from my college Humanities class, and I still didn't get the reference. Now I know why--I hate Woody Allen.

Will that be a medium massage, or would you like a full Woody?

{Sorry, sorry ... not :lol:

}

by **troubleagain** » Fri Sep 07, 2007 4:13 pm

Oooh, that was a convoluted pun, KLA2!

by **KLA2** » Mon Sep 10, 2007 9:10 pm

Yeah. Sometimes I work too hard for the joke. :wink:

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